KIAG - Niagara Falls IAP/ARS

gamer9678 · Post by **gamer9678** » 31 Jul 2007, 03:18

I'm working on KIAG for FS9 and the first thing I always do when making an AFCAD is to get all the AI traffic available for that airport. I have the one civilian Airline (Myrtle Beach Direct Air) but can't find Mil flight plans for it. I found all the models that I need on AVSIM. So anybody know where I can find them?

Calvin Gwin · Post by **Calvin Gwin** » 29 Aug 2007, 17:56

I had made some very simple plans for the ANG units, but they were lost when I had to reinstall FS9. Are the aircraft used there still just Herkeys and KC-135's?

gamer9678 · Post by **gamer9678** » 29 Aug 2007, 20:15

They use KC-135s and C-130s. The AFCAD is done now but I was unable to test how AI would handle the military section so if you could give me flightplans that would be great.

SMOC · Post by **SMOC** » 29 Aug 2007, 20:20

If memory serves, Niagra JRB closed. I believe the C-130s went to Little Rock and the KC-135s went to Bangor.

Calvin Gwin · Post by **Calvin Gwin** » 29 Aug 2007, 21:18

I had heard of that, but I was under the impression KIAG was spared for some reason. Maybe not, it has been a while since I have paid attention to my ANG units in the area.

ricktk · Post by **ricktk** » 29 Aug 2007, 21:58

From Wikapedia & GlobalSecurity.org: The Niagara Falls Air Reserve Station was included in the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure recommendations issued by the Department of Defense on May 13, 2005. If the BRAC committee, the President, and Congress had approved all of the recommendations, it would have resulted in the closure of the Niagara Falls Air Reserve Station. However, due to a local grassroots campaign by families and associates of affected military personnel, coupled with a united political effort involving Republican and Democratic congressional representatives and other politicians including both US Senators from New York, the BRAC recommendation regarding this base was largely overturned and the base will remain open for the foreseeable future. The Niagara Falls Air Reserve Station is the last U.S. Air Force Installation in the State of New York and the largest federal facility in the region.

Believe the only thing moved was the KC-135R to Bangor to replace their E models. C-130 Airlift and all the other reserve functions stayed.

Post by **BadPvtDan** » 29 Aug 2007, 22:24

C-130s are gone.
http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airc ... flinn.html

gamer9678 · Post by **gamer9678** » 29 Aug 2007, 23:46

Something is still there because I see military a/c land at kbuf sometimes they woulden't have a reason to come here is something wasen't going on there. A month ago a C-130 landed at KBUF. And I know it wasen't closed because there was this big hipe around here about it.

Calvin Gwin · Post by **Calvin Gwin** » 30 Aug 2007, 00:15

Military aircraft go to commercial airports all the time. For example I have seen military transports at Greater Rochester Int. many times. I doubt any aircraft at KIAG would have any reason to make a hop to KBUF anyways, that is such a short distance the only real reason to send a plane there would be for an airshow.

ricktk · Post by **ricktk** » 30 Aug 2007, 18:19

Well cannot tell on the aircraft. However, a copyright 2007 New York GIS picture on google earth stills shows C-130's on the ramp. The NIAG ARS web site is still up and running. The base is used by NYANG, NYARNG, Coast Guard, AF Reserve, etc. etc. I think the base is still running. The tenent units? The 914th Airlift wing does not list any airlift squadron or group as a sub there.

SMOC · Post by **SMOC** » 30 Aug 2007, 20:23

I wouldn't go exactly by Google Earth, there a few bases that still show aircraft that have left.

However, I believe you are correct... it looks like the 135R models are gone but the C-130s remained behind after a bunch of political whining.

tjwhite56 · Post by **tjwhite56** » 31 Aug 2007, 01:09

I was at the Thunder of Niagara airshow on the 11th and I was in a 914th C130, and a 107th KC135. They are still there. There is also a fair amount of construction going on there.

http://www.thunderoverniagara.com/
http://www.nimac.org/
http://www.wivb.com/Global/story.asp?s=5997467

gamer9678 · Post by **gamer9678** » 31 Aug 2007, 02:14

I knew they were there.

I based my parking spots off the way they were parked in google maps.