The new helo...

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 23 Sep 2008, 22:44

It seems that this new package is causing quite a stir in the AI community.
People are asking about it all over.
So I'm letting everyone know about it and where to get it.
I'm pointing questions that people have to this site for answers.

Post by **Firebird** » 24 Sep 2008, 02:28

Well then its having the effect that Nick was hoping for.

I wonder how many people are pulling apart the FDE to find out how it works

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MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 24 Sep 2008, 02:43

Firebird wrote:I wonder how many people are pulling apart the FDE to find out how it works .

I wonder how many of them will come over here asking why it doesn't work in "their other AI choppers"??

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 24 Sep 2008, 02:55

I've already had one guy call it an 'effect'. I DID NOT tell him how it was done. That's Nicks area.

The guy did mention it was too bad it couldn't be adapted to other AI helos. And I was thinking, what other AI helos are there?

nickblack423 · Post by **nickblack423** » 24 Sep 2008, 10:10

It cant be adapted to any other AI Helo's I'm afraid. The FDE could but the hop-up take-off effect cannot, its hard wired into the model. You'll see the same effect come with the Chinook, and it looks even better on her I feel.

Nick

Post by **bismarck** » 24 Sep 2008, 10:13

nickblack423 wrote:It cant be adapted to any other AI Helo's I'm afraid. The FDE could but the hop-up take-off effect cannot, its hard wired into the model. You'll see the same effect come with the Chinook, and it looks even better on her I feel.

Nick

...and hope to see the same for new harrier package...

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 24 Sep 2008, 15:01

nickblack423 wrote: You'll see the same effect come with the Chinook,

Nick

You're such a tease.

MACC · Post by **MACC** » 24 Sep 2008, 15:27

KevinJarvis wrote:I've already had one guy call it an 'effect'. I DID NOT tell him how it was done. That's Nicks area.

The guy did mention it was too bad it couldn't be adapted to other AI helos. And I was thinking, what other AI helos are there?

CzAI Mi-17/Mi24/W3 Sokol/JFAI HH60...

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 24 Sep 2008, 15:47

MACC wrote:
KevinJarvis wrote:I've already had one guy call it an 'effect'. I DID NOT tell him how it was done. That's Nicks area.

The guy did mention it was too bad it couldn't be adapted to other AI helos. And I was thinking, what other AI helos are there?
CzAI Mi-17/Mi24/W3 Sokol/JFAI HH60...

I knew someone in the know would correct me...

Thanks MACC.

I guess I should have stated what other AI helo's are there that fly like a helo should.

MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 24 Sep 2008, 15:51

Hear that...........it's the sound of a can of worms being opened.

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 24 Sep 2008, 17:10

Well, if anyone can rise to the occasion it's this group.

Post by **Firebird** » 24 Sep 2008, 18:32

Would that be rise vertically, Kev

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MACC · Post by **MACC** » 24 Sep 2008, 19:57

KevinJarvis wrote:
MACC wrote:
KevinJarvis wrote:I've already had one guy call it an 'effect'. I DID NOT tell him how it was done. That's Nicks area.

The guy did mention it was too bad it couldn't be adapted to other AI helos. And I was thinking, what other AI helos are there?
CzAI Mi-17/Mi24/W3 Sokol/JFAI HH60...
I knew someone in the know would correct me...

Thanks MACC.

I guess I should have stated what other AI helo's are there that fly like a helo should.

Those are the LOD'd models, or ones that i consider True AI although im sure theres more...

SeaKing/Mi2 Hoplite/S-76

Macc

..oh yeah and an apache

mikewmac · Post by **mikewmac** » 24 Sep 2008, 19:58

I sure hope that someone figures out how those turbine engined AI helicopter FDE's work as I for one would love to know.

All kidding aside, my new turbine engined AI FDE's for both the NBAI Apache and Chinook are each tuned to their specific models with Nick's unique takeoff animation and anyone that tries to use them with any other helicopters will be very disappointed.

Mike

Post by **Weescotty** » 24 Sep 2008, 20:26

mikewmac wrote:I sure hope that someone figures out how those turbine engined AI helicopter FDE's work as I for one would love to know.

All kidding aside, my new turbine engined AI FDE's for both the NBAI Apache and Chinook are each tuned to their specific models with Nick's unique takeoff animation and anyone that tries to use them with any other helicopters will be very disappointed.

Mike

Well actually (only MAIW members can access this lnk, sorry to everyone else)

http://www.militaryaiworks.com/forum/vi ... .php?t=819

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 24 Sep 2008, 22:58

Well from what I'm reading everyone likes the Apache. Now that we have given them a taste of that can be I'm sure lot's of folks will be chomping at the bit for more.
Guess they'll have to be patient...LOL.

MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 25 Sep 2008, 00:29

@Kevin Reed-Kevin you'll have to finish the Osprey model now as I think the team could get its flight behaivor worked out with what everyone has learned so far.

Lightning · Post by **Lightning** » 25 Sep 2008, 00:31

nickblack423 wrote:It cant be adapted to any other AI Helo's I'm afraid. The FDE could but the hop-up take-off effect cannot, its hard wired into the model. You'll see the same effect come with the Chinook, and it looks even better on her I feel.

Nick

Yep, VERY VERY tricky Nick

Very First thing I did was try the Flight Model on one of my other AI helo's with the intention of converting / moding them all cause it looks SO good!
Like you said, it didn't work

Then I looked at the model and realised the takeoff sequence was hard wired into the model animation itself.
VERY sharp !
You are definitely the AI model master!

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 25 Sep 2008, 00:40

MIKE JG wrote:@Kevin Reed-Kevin you'll have to finish the Osprey model now as I think the team could get its flight behaivor worked out with what everyone has learned so far.

An Osprey would be nice.
I had the chance to get inside one last weekend.
Much smaller than I anticipated.
But really cool.

Victory103 · Post by **Victory103** » 25 Sep 2008, 03:24

KevinJarvis wrote: An Osprey would be nice.
I had the chance to get inside one last weekend.
Much smaller than I anticipated.
But really cool.

Yep, walked thru one at NAS Pensacola a few years ago, much smaller than I thought. I have a whole slew of non AI H-60's needing a rework, I know....down the road.