The Cold War

socialgarbage · Post by **socialgarbage** » 02 Oct 2008, 22:43

Hello and THANK YOU for everything you guys do!!! I've currently got all of your packs installed in FSX along with all of the PAI packs. My question is why isn't there any Soviet military AI packs? I didn't even realize this until today, I've gotten so used to seeing military traffic all over the world and this morning I was flying over Russia and hardly seen any traffic of any kind. So I got online and came to your site sure I had just missed a pack or two which contained my precious Migs and Sukhois, but no. It would seem that this is indeed a neglected part of aviation. I searched the web and still found nothing. What gives? Is the Iron curtain still up around the Soviet AI? Or could it be , that I am the only one around who would even crave such a thing?

Just kidding! But seriously, whats up with some Soviet AI?

Post by **BadPvtDan** » 02 Oct 2008, 22:51

No models.

socialgarbage · Post by **socialgarbage** » 02 Oct 2008, 23:29

That statement,combined with your signature there, becomes very ironic.

That kinda stinks, though. Is there any to be had anywhere? If not oh well, I've still got the rest of the world with which to enjoy your work in!
Thanks again.

Post by **BadPvtDan** » 02 Oct 2008, 23:35

Anna's an athlete!

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 03 Oct 2008, 00:14

Hello and THANK YOU for everything you guys do!!! I've currently got all of your packs installed in FSX along with all of the PAI packs. My question is why isn't there any Soviet military AI packs? I didn't even realize this until today, I've gotten so used to seeing military traffic all over the world and this morning I was flying over Russia and hardly seen any traffic of any kind. So I got online and came to your site sure I had just missed a pack or two which contained my precious Migs and Sukhois, but no. It would seem that this is indeed a neglected part of aviation. I searched the web and still found nothing. What gives? Is the Iron curtain still up around the Soviet AI? Or could it be , that I am the only one around who would even crave such a thing?
Just kidding! But seriously, whats up with some Soviet AI?

http://www.militaryaiworks.com/forum/vi ... php?t=1206

As you can see here, no or very few models available

And yes you're the only one who would crave it

No I'm just kidding, I need something to practice intercepting

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 03 Oct 2008, 00:36

I've been working with an Su27 model for the last year. While not AI specific it is the closet thing available.

Not up to MAIW standards but it is possible with a decent computer you could run these.

socialgarbage · Post by **socialgarbage** » 03 Oct 2008, 01:01

Jumpshot724 wrote: No I'm just kidding, I need something to practice intercepting

Exactly why I'm looking for them!

planejunky · Post by **planejunky** » 03 Oct 2008, 17:39

Something like this you mean?

You could also try here. http://www.avsim.su/files.phtml?id=2754&action=comments

socialgarbage · Post by **socialgarbage** » 03 Oct 2008, 18:32

You sir, are awsome!!!! Thank you, and nice find!

MACC · Post by **MACC** » 03 Oct 2008, 20:15

any pics of your Su27 and LOD counts Kev?

planejunky · Post by **planejunky** » 03 Oct 2008, 22:59

socialgarbage wrote:You sir, are awsome!!!! Thank you, and nice find!

No problem mate, glad I could help.

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 03 Oct 2008, 23:55

MACC wrote:any pics of your Su27 and LOD counts Kev?

I posted some pix months ago but let me see if I can find them again.

No LOD's though. I don't have ACM
Suffice to say this is NOT an AI specific model.

I also have some IL76-Mig29-Mig27-Jaguar aircraft too.
This is with Indian Air Force markings.

mr.bean · Post by **mr.bean** » 04 Oct 2008, 00:26

planejunky wrote:Something like this you mean?

You could also try here. http://www.avsim.su/files.phtml?id=2754&action=comments

Awsome Planejunky. Now I have military Russian traffic in Russian skies. Dling this right now. And nice shots KJ.

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 04 Oct 2008, 05:43

Thanks Justyn. I had completely forgotten about this package.
If you look at the pic I posted with the blue Sukhois you will see 2 Mi8's in the background. They are from this package.

socialgarbage · Post by **socialgarbage** » 04 Oct 2008, 09:24

MACC wrote:any pics of your Su27 and LOD counts Kev?

He has a few more posted at my normal hangout at SimV, Very nice looking model and paint! Will be looking forward to this one!

http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2 ... 1223011364

lowlevelRAF · Post by **lowlevelRAF** » 04 Oct 2008, 14:58

planejunky, where is the best place to go bear hunting when i download the ai traffic on that link? Do any bears go near the UK? Where do the bears fly from?

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 04 Oct 2008, 16:01

That's the only Bear in AI use that I've ever seen. Hard to believe it's an AI specifice model.
It seems to work pretty well though.

planejunky · Post by **planejunky** » 04 Oct 2008, 18:30

lowlevelRAF wrote:planejunky, where is the best place to go bear hunting when i download the ai traffic on that link? Do any bears go near the UK? Where do the bears fly from?

The bear in the screenie is a small package I put together a year or so back. It works well, through the Bear has to fly from an obscure airport in Norway to ensure it travels within interception range of the UK.

The other big problem is a lack of GCI support, so I had to experiment a little and write down the timings etc. If you'd like it, just send me a PM.

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 04 Oct 2008, 19:43

Back when I had FS9 installed, numerous crashes, hdd problems, and FSx installations ago, I had regular Bear flights from an airport near Murmansk fly NW out to a waypoint NW of Norway then through either the Greenland-Iceland gap or through the Iceland-Scotland gap enroute Cuba. It took a total of 5 invisible waypoints to get both routes just right, if I remember correctly, as I had to ensure I routed the Bears outside/around Florida's airspace.

Interception was a hit and miss thing at times, just like in real life. My best shots at interception were trying to pick the correct "gap" and then just being up there at the right time. Remember that AI descriptors only show onscreen when your aircraft is withing 10 miles of the AI aircraft.

To get the "right time" the first time, I added temporary waypoints in the gaps themselves and simply "slewed&parked" my aircraft there and waited for the Bear to fly by --- at X4 speed of course. That gave me a pretty accurate transit time from any of the numerous departure times I had set up. I could then "fudge" a GCI intercept by imagining that I was vectored there based on intell.

Just one way of doing things. The fun was in working out the fp's myself and then "watching" them work by completing the intercept.