HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
- dk1213
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HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Hey boys,
Just wondering if anyone else notices that the ILS at Holloman AFB for runway 16 is corrupt. I cannot make it work for the life of me. It will catch the ils after you have passed the base and just keep you on a ride .... if there is a fix can someone let me know?
Just wondering if anyone else notices that the ILS at Holloman AFB for runway 16 is corrupt. I cannot make it work for the life of me. It will catch the ils after you have passed the base and just keep you on a ride .... if there is a fix can someone let me know?
-DAN KARSZNIA-
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Hi
I think I know what the problem is with the afcad in this package.
A "user aircraft" ILS has been added to rwy 34 (the opposite end of rwy 16), but the designer used the same ILS ident code. I believe that every ILS at a given airport (rather, within a given afcad) needs a unique ident and frequency. Therefore, they have unwittingly corrupted the rwy 16 ILS.
Perhaps they intended to add the rwy 34 ILS to simulate the rwy 16 ILS back-course? However, the rwy 16 ILS back-course is already enabled, so one solution would be to just delete the rwy 34 ILS from the afcad.
If, on the other hand, there is a rwy 34 ILS in reality (or, you want a seperate rwy 34 ILS in your sim regardless of the real world situation), then you could just edit the rwy 34 ILS in afcad, and give it a new and unique ident and frequency.
Either one of those two solutions should get your rwy 16 ILS working again.
HTH,
Dan
I think I know what the problem is with the afcad in this package.
A "user aircraft" ILS has been added to rwy 34 (the opposite end of rwy 16), but the designer used the same ILS ident code. I believe that every ILS at a given airport (rather, within a given afcad) needs a unique ident and frequency. Therefore, they have unwittingly corrupted the rwy 16 ILS.
Perhaps they intended to add the rwy 34 ILS to simulate the rwy 16 ILS back-course? However, the rwy 16 ILS back-course is already enabled, so one solution would be to just delete the rwy 34 ILS from the afcad.
If, on the other hand, there is a rwy 34 ILS in reality (or, you want a seperate rwy 34 ILS in your sim regardless of the real world situation), then you could just edit the rwy 34 ILS in afcad, and give it a new and unique ident and frequency.
Either one of those two solutions should get your rwy 16 ILS working again.
HTH,
Dan
Dan
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Thanks Dan. I dont know how to do that, but thanks for the reply.
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Here you go:
I have deleted the erronious rwy 34 ILS.
Back up your original file, and put this one in its place (in your "...\Flight Simulator 9\Addon Scenery\scenery" folder).
I have deleted the erronious rwy 34 ILS.
Back up your original file, and put this one in its place (in your "...\Flight Simulator 9\Addon Scenery\scenery" folder).
Dan
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
wow thanks !!!
Can you please do the same and fix the ILS for New Orleans NAS ..... It has a problem where it brings me in far left..... I assume same kind of issue. It would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Thank you so much!
Can you please do the same and fix the ILS for New Orleans NAS ..... It has a problem where it brings me in far left..... I assume same kind of issue. It would be greatly appreciated!!!!
Thank you so much!
-DAN KARSZNIA-
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Well, I only have FS9, but this should make the required corrections to the afcad for KNBG. I have also corrected the rwy 04 threshold area, and added the blastpad extensions. I also sorted out the taxiway edge lines.
Hope it is also compatible with your FSX set-up.
Hope it is also compatible with your FSX set-up.
Dan
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Ok Kungfuman here is my report:
Holloman is fixed however the ATC has not issued an ILS landing in 3 attempts, just visual 34 dont know if that is normal or because of the weather or what.
2. Fixed knbg, however the parking changed dramatically. No biggie tho.
The last and final favor I would ask is to correct the ILS at Mountain Home AFB, same issue as KNBG.
Thank you so much for all of your help. I can now fly into airports ILS that used to have to be avoided.
Holloman is fixed however the ATC has not issued an ILS landing in 3 attempts, just visual 34 dont know if that is normal or because of the weather or what.
2. Fixed knbg, however the parking changed dramatically. No biggie tho.
The last and final favor I would ask is to correct the ILS at Mountain Home AFB, same issue as KNBG.
Thank you so much for all of your help. I can now fly into airports ILS that used to have to be avoided.
-DAN KARSZNIA-
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Hi,dk1213 wrote:Ok Kungfuman here is my report:
Holloman is fixed however the ATC has not issued an ILS landing in 3 attempts, just visual 34 dont know if that is normal or because of the weather or what.
2. Fixed knbg, however the parking changed dramatically. No biggie tho.
The last and final favor I would ask is to correct the ILS at Mountain Home AFB, same issue as KNBG.
Thank you so much for all of your help. I can now fly into airports ILS that used to have to be avoided.
The Approaches for the rwy 21 ILS will have been lost when the original designer changed the designation of rwy 04/22 to rwy 03/21. I guess that must have inactivated the approach code for rwy 16 as well?
The result is that ATC will no longer clear aircraft "for the ILS approach". Luckily this can be fixed with ADE9, and I will post my ADE9 compiled version of Holloman here, with ILS approaches enabled for AI aircraft and the ATC. But you will have to wait until I have got rid of a bug in my current version of ADE9.
So far, the ILS fixes I have provided for Holloman are only for the ILS instrumentation in the cockpit of the user aircraft. Normally this would be enough, but due to the re-designation of runways at Holloman, more work is required to link the approach code up to the new runway (FS thinks that a re-numbered runway is a totally different runway where approaches are concerned).
HTH,
Dan
Dan
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Cool. So as I understand it, holloman is now a visual approach only base? Ok. Your fix for New Orleans worked beautifullly, other than moving the birds around for parking. I wish I understood how to do these things, especially create my own traffic to add to the MAIW packages.
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
That question raises my own question, actually: Before you used my fix, you had a disfunctional rwy 16 ILS. But was ATC clearing you (and other AI aircraft) for a rwy 16 ILS approach? Is it only since you installed the fix that ATC has only offered a visual approach for rwy 16?dk1213 wrote:Cool. So as I understand it, holloman is now a visual approach only base?
Are all your findings relating to when rwy 16 is the active runway, or have you used other runways?
I'm pretty sure AFCAD v2.21 (by Lee Swordy) is available from either Avsim or Flightsim. Do a search...
Afcad comes with a very well written manual. Read it through, and you will learn how easy it all is. When you have become familiar with afcad, you may want to look at ADE9X, by Jon Masterson. This is a similar type of program, but it has a lot of additional, and arguably more complex, capabilities.
Both programs are freeware.
Dan
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Kuhngfuman: Thanks for the heads-up on Holloman, as that was one of my next projects of "correcting" quite a few AF Bases in FSX. I only concentrate on the inaccuracies of the taxiway and tarmac positioning, using ADE, and I have not yet tested the ILS functions. So far, I have corrected Tinker, Eglin, Duke Field and Hulburt Field, Barksdale, Charleston, and Sumter.
Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Sorry, I missed this point.dk1213 wrote:Ok Kungfuman here is my report:
Holloman is fixed however the ATC has not issued an ILS landing in 3 attempts, just visual 34 dont know if that is normal or because of the weather or what.
As there is no ILS to rwy 34, you won't be given an ILS approach to rwy 34. You can, however, use the rwy 16 ILS back course as a landing aid. But ATC will not clear you for anything other than a visual approach to this runway, as it is not equipped with any instrument landing aid beyond the rwy 16 ILS back-course.
I am just finishing an ADE edited version of this MAIW file. I will post it here to replace the AFCAD edited file.
Dan
Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
OK, I have now updated and fixed the requested afcads in ADE9. These are:
KHMN Holloman AFB
KMUO Mountain Home AFB
KNBG New Orleans NAS
I have aligned both visual and functional ILS equipment with the runway centrelines, so you will now approach correctly lined up with the runways. I have deleted the erronious ILS equipment, so the correct equipment now works - and you will now hear "cleared for the ILS Approach..." where appropriate. I updated some of the approach code and adjusted some scenery objects, including taxiway signs, to fit in better with the afcad.
For KNBG New Orleans NAS, I have extended the rwy 04 threshold to its current position, and I have also added an exclusion to prevent the autogen from covering the new threshold.
Back up your original copies first, then put these files in your Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Addon Scenery\scenery folder. I have adjusted the file names so that you don't confuse which file is which. Rather than "AF2", they now include the tag "ADE" in the file name.
Obviously, these are not officially endorsed by MAIW, and I do not claim "ownership" as they are directly made from files I have copied from MAIW. They are just meant to be minor fixes and adjustments to help out fellow forum members that have requested them. Enjoy!
KHMN Holloman AFB
KMUO Mountain Home AFB
KNBG New Orleans NAS
I have aligned both visual and functional ILS equipment with the runway centrelines, so you will now approach correctly lined up with the runways. I have deleted the erronious ILS equipment, so the correct equipment now works - and you will now hear "cleared for the ILS Approach..." where appropriate. I updated some of the approach code and adjusted some scenery objects, including taxiway signs, to fit in better with the afcad.
For KNBG New Orleans NAS, I have extended the rwy 04 threshold to its current position, and I have also added an exclusion to prevent the autogen from covering the new threshold.
Back up your original copies first, then put these files in your Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Addon Scenery\scenery folder. I have adjusted the file names so that you don't confuse which file is which. Rather than "AF2", they now include the tag "ADE" in the file name.
Obviously, these are not officially endorsed by MAIW, and I do not claim "ownership" as they are directly made from files I have copied from MAIW. They are just meant to be minor fixes and adjustments to help out fellow forum members that have requested them. Enjoy!
Dan
Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Many thanks, Dan. I am sure that this will be greatly appreciated.
Steve
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Here is Holloman AFB:
The original file was by Duncan MacKellar.
The "unavailable" file I uploaded a few posts above didn't contain correct codes for the T-38s. This new one now has correct codes.
PLEASE NOTE:
This file is for the following MAIW packages:
USAF F-117 Nighthawk
German Armed Forces GAFFTC
Holloman Talons
I have also created another afcad for non-retro users who have deleted the F-117s and replaced with F-22s. You can find it here:
http://www.militaryaiworks.com/newforum ... 173#p80173
The "unavailable" file I uploaded a few posts above didn't contain correct codes for the T-38s. This new one now has correct codes.
PLEASE NOTE:
This file is for the following MAIW packages:
USAF F-117 Nighthawk
German Armed Forces GAFFTC
Holloman Talons
I have also created another afcad for non-retro users who have deleted the F-117s and replaced with F-22s. You can find it here:
http://www.militaryaiworks.com/newforum ... 173#p80173
Dan
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Re: HOLLOMAN AFB ILS
Hey guys,
God its been awhile I have been through alot moving around ...... I am so happy to see all that MAIW has accomplished in the few months I was in "hiatus" lol
Hey thanks for fixing these afcads! Many thanks to Dan for that!
I am going to start a new topic in the general section about ground tiles. I am using rex, ase (i turn the rex off for that to get more realistic cloud cover) UTX all versions, and gex. I feel like tileproxy would serve me better so I am going to get some feedback because to be honest the ground looks blurrier than I like with these add ons so I am going to get some feedback to see what I can do to correct all this. Many thanks to all of you, I love the spirit of the military flightsim community, please keep up the good work. I am looking to become a part of the team, someone please contact me I am a guy that can offer ALOT of knowledge as far as how the real life military conducts their ops ....... feel free!
Danny
God its been awhile I have been through alot moving around ...... I am so happy to see all that MAIW has accomplished in the few months I was in "hiatus" lol
Hey thanks for fixing these afcads! Many thanks to Dan for that!
I am going to start a new topic in the general section about ground tiles. I am using rex, ase (i turn the rex off for that to get more realistic cloud cover) UTX all versions, and gex. I feel like tileproxy would serve me better so I am going to get some feedback because to be honest the ground looks blurrier than I like with these add ons so I am going to get some feedback to see what I can do to correct all this. Many thanks to all of you, I love the spirit of the military flightsim community, please keep up the good work. I am looking to become a part of the team, someone please contact me I am a guy that can offer ALOT of knowledge as far as how the real life military conducts their ops ....... feel free!
Danny
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