NAS Miramar Top Gun package by MAIW

Skyranger · Post by **Skyranger** » 31 Mar 2008, 20:00

I have installed both the Top Gun and Oceana packages into FS9 (via the self-installer); when I try to create a flight at either location, once I select Fly Now, the computer goes through the load up sequence and then dumps me out (ie exits) FS9 and returns me to my desktop. All of my other MAIW packages run just fine. Any clues please. Many tanks.

sprocky · Post by **sprocky** » 31 Mar 2008, 20:26

As much as I enjoy Miramar I just noticed something strange:

I landed on 24R and left via Taxiway L. Since I am not familiar with the airfield I turned on "taxi help" (sorry, I do not know the english expression - the pink lines that guide you to the parking position). As soon as I cross Taxiway P FS seems not to recognize that I just crossed it causing the "pink" stripes to stay behind me and dissappear step by step in front of me. At one point I dont know where to taxi to. I tried to slew back to the position where all this started as I thought I may have been too far away from the taxi lines but I did not help. And I probably did that ten times now. Any suggestion what may be wrong? Does this have anything to do with the double hold short node that is placed when leaving 24R?

SMOC · Post by **SMOC** » 31 Mar 2008, 20:30

I would say it concerns the drive through parking but Mike would know better.

bismarck · Post by **bismarck** » 31 Mar 2008, 21:11

Don't know what's the problem and I'ne not yet try to land at Miramar, but the same happens at Coningsby.

mikewmac · Post by **mikewmac** » 31 Mar 2008, 21:22

sprocky wrote:As much as I enjoy Miramar I just noticed something strange:

I landed on 24R and left via Taxiway L. Since I am not familiar with the airfield I turned on "taxi help" (sorry, I do not know the english expression - the pink lines that guide you to the parking position). As soon as I cross Taxiway P FS seems not to recognize that I just crossed it causing the "pink" stripes to stay behind me and dissappear step by step in front of me. At one point I dont know where to taxi to. I tried to slew back to the position where all this started as I thought I may have been too far away from the taxi lines but I did not help. And I probably did that ten times now. Any suggestion what may be wrong? Does this have anything to do with the double hold short node that is placed when leaving 24R?

Jan,

Chris is probably right. The original and visible Taxiway L is actually closed and the AI are all using an invisible taxiway network to depart the runway and taxi in on. I've never tried what you did, but I am assuming that Taxiway L being closed is causing the problem that you are experiencing. Taxiways M and N are also closed as is Runway Taxiway 10/28. These all have to be closed in order for the drive though parking network to function properly.

Sorry,

Mike

mikewmac · Post by **mikewmac** » 31 Mar 2008, 21:27

bismarck wrote:Don't know what's the problem and I'ne not yet try to land at Miramar, but the same happens at Coningsby.

Bismarck,

RAF Coningsby has a similar drive through parking scheme, so closed original and visible runway exit taxiways is probably the cause of this problem there also.

Sorry,

Mike

bismarck · Post by **bismarck** » 31 Mar 2008, 21:32

It's not a problem....so I can park near the pub for a black Guinness....

sprocky · Post by **sprocky** » 31 Mar 2008, 21:38

mikewmac wrote: Jan,

Chris is probably right. The original and visible Taxiway L is actually closed and the AI are all using an invisible taxiway network to depart the runway and taxi in on. I've never tried what you did, but I am assuming that Taxiway L being closed is causing the problem that you are experiencing. Taxiways M and N are also closed as is Runway Taxiway 10/28. These all have to be closed in order for the drive though parking network to function properly.

Sorry,
Mike

Ok that really seems to be the point here.

Could you please recommend an exit that I could use for leaving the runway?

SMOC · Post by **SMOC** » 31 Mar 2008, 22:00

Chances are you're going to run into that issue no matter where you exit. If you're unfamiliar with the field layout you can study the airport and learn the taxi routes but I don't think you're going to be able to follow via progressive taxi.

sprocky · Post by **sprocky** » 31 Mar 2008, 22:25

The problem is that ATC simply assigns me to "parking" (maybe caused by just requesting TNG's followed by full landing without filing a flight plan

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SMOC · Post by **SMOC** » 31 Mar 2008, 22:52

ATC does list "Parking" only but when I ask to taxi there it tells me to taxi via taxiways L and R. Looking at the diagram I can see that will take me to the NW parking ramp. And once there you just pick a spot to park.

mikewmac · Post by **mikewmac** » 01 Apr 2008, 09:35

sprocky wrote:
mikewmac wrote: Jan,

Chris is probably right. The original and visible Taxiway L is actually closed and the AI are all using an invisible taxiway network to depart the runway and taxi in on. I've never tried what you did, but I am assuming that Taxiway L being closed is causing the problem that you are experiencing. Taxiways M and N are also closed as is Runway Taxiway 10/28. These all have to be closed in order for the drive though parking network to function properly.

Sorry,
Mike
Ok that really seems to be the point here.

Could you please recommend an exit that I could use for leaving the runway?

Jan,

Maybe if you taxi to the end of the runway to exit on either Taiway O or E both ground control and progressive taxi will work since those taxiways are both open.

Otherwise I think you just have to exit on one of the closed exit taxiways and taxi in to park wherever you please without the aid of ground control or progressive taxi.

Sorry,

Mike

RipPipPip · Post by **RipPipPip** » 01 Apr 2008, 11:43

Just to express my WOWW:
both MAIW Miramar & Phoenix packages are on top of Avsim "Hot Downloads for Yesterday" list, even higher than the first WOAI package there

Firebird · Post by **Firebird** » 01 Apr 2008, 12:22

Guess that confirms that retro is hot right now.

f14driver · Post by **f14driver** » 01 Apr 2008, 14:18

We released 2 days earlier then you guys

and we'll be back on nr 1 after tomorrow I guess UPS is doing about 100 downloads per hour at the moment *grin*

Seems that the AI groups are the most popular thing now on avsim , check the monthly and yearly stats and you'll see quite some AI popping up there

Firebird · Post by **Firebird** » 01 Apr 2008, 14:33

Skyranger wrote:I have installed both the Top Gun and Oceana packages into FS9 (via the self-installer); when I try to create a flight at either location, once I select Fly Now, the computer goes through the load up sequence and then dumps me out (ie exits) FS9 and returns me to my desktop. All of my other MAIW packages run just fine. Any clues please. Many tanks.

Sorry its taken so long to get to back to you. If this happens its normally scenery related. What happens if you load somewhere else and then switch to Miramar?

sprocky · Post by **sprocky** » 01 Apr 2008, 15:04

mikewmac wrote: Jan,

Maybe if you taxi to the end of the runway to exit on either Taiway O or E both ground control and progressive taxi will work since those taxiways are both open.

Otherwise I think you just have to exit on one of the closed exit taxiways and taxi in to park wherever you please without the aid of ground control or progressive taxi.

Sorry,
Mike

Will chack that as soon I will have time to launch FS again. Thanks Mike.

Cowboymarine1593 · Post by **Cowboymarine1593** » 01 Apr 2008, 20:18

where can i find a good miramar scenery to go with it

nickblack423 · Post by **nickblack423** » 01 Apr 2008, 20:34

It has scenery of Miramar in the package. Our own custom Scenery created by Ian McCartney.

Nick

campbeme · Post by **campbeme** » 01 Apr 2008, 20:41

Just what I needed to cure the Burn Out.

Cheers Guys absolutely FanF*!*!*gtastic

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