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Uploaded some paints for Michael Pearson's Mirage 5 series.

UAE
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Cool. Thanks.
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Should be a few more Mirage paints on AVSIM.

Gabon
Zaire
Switzerland
Peru
and one or two more.
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Excellent.
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no FSX/P3D textures, that's disappointing........

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f4nutter wrote:
03 Dec 2020, 12:07
no FSX/P3D textures, that's disappointing........
FS9 will win... ;-)

A lot of us are still using this old version (and can't produce FSX nor P3D)

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The textures can easily be converted, that way everyone wins.

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yes they can be converted easy and produced for all 3 sims while your making the textures, I only have 1 sim but produce for all 3, its not hard to save BMP to DXT3 and DDS_DXT5. not everyone knows how to convert files.

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Got the last of my delta winged Mirage's uploaded. Spain, Brazil, and Argentina. Hope you enjoy.
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I will, I will.
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f4nutter wrote:
03 Dec 2020, 12:07
no FSX/P3D textures, that's disappointing........
Has that model even been converted to FSX/ P3D yet?

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jetpilot1980 wrote:
18 Jan 2021, 16:58
Has that model even been converted to FSX/ P3D yet?
No and it would be a daunting task as there are 202 model variants for the Mirage 5 and a gazillion more for the other versions (Mirage 3, Kfir, Dagger, Nesher, Cheetah).

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The Mirage family is a candidate to carefully reduce the model plethora.

This is what we are talking about:

MPAI Atlas Cheetah 22 models 78 textures
MPAI Dassault Mirage 5 202 models 433 textures
MPAI Dassault Mirage III 178 models 443 textures
MPAI Dassault Mirage IV 14 models 93 textures
MPAI IAI Dagger 14 models 22 textures
MPAI IAI Kfir 66 models 253 textures
MPAI IAI Nesher 10 models 22 textures


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o.O

Thats one heck of a model to texture ratio.

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some of the models were just upgrades with very little difference if any to the naked eye, the mirage 5g for Gabon for example there was only 3 ever built and the upgrade mirage 5g-2 only 2 aircraft upgraded 5g's so only 3 airframes ever existed, but Mike made them all.

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That’s the reason I say we need to do some careful cleaning... ;-)
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Yeah, there are a load of small differences which are not immediately apparent.

Just taking Brazil as an example. Mike designated them early and late models, as he often did, but they are in fact different versions. The Early models are officially IIIEBRs whilst the late models are IIIEBR-2s which apart from anything else have canards. The weird thing is that he name the two seaters with the official designation.
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If someone is willing to filter out the essential models and narrow the lot down to say ~100 models I am willing to do the conversion. Last year I converted some of the Belgium Mirage V's for my own personal use, they look quite nice in P3D.

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this is a bit long but it might help you with the number of models actually built helping you to decide what ones to use.

Variants:

Mirage 5 : Single-seat radarless ground-attack fighter aircraft.
Mirage 5AD : Export version of Mirage 5 for Abu Dhabi, UAE; 12 built.[11]
Mirage 5EAD : Single-seat radar-equipped fighter-bomber version for Abu Dhabi, UAE. 14 built.[12]
Mirage 5BA : Single-seat version of the Mirage 5 for Belgium, fitted with mainly US avionics; 63 built, 62 under license by SABCA.[11]
Mirage 5COA : Export version of the Mirage 5 for Colombia. 14 built.[11] Remaining aircraft upgraded by IAI with canards and new avionics.[13]
Mirage 5D : Export single-seat ground-attack aircraft of the Mirage 5 for Libya; 53 built.[11]
Mirage 5DE : Single-seat radar-equipped fighter-bomber version for Libya.
Mirage 5F : Single-seat ground-attack fighter aircraft for the French Air Force. 50 ex-Israeli Mirage 5Js.[14] Eight aircraft withdrawn for conversion to Mirage 50C for Chile, with eight new-build 5Fs built as replacements.[15]
Mirage 5G : Export version of the Mirage 5 for Gabon. Three built.[11]
Mirage 5G-2 : Four upgraded aircraft for Gabon, two of which were upgraded 5G and two undelivered ex-Zaire 5M.[16]
Mirage 5J : 50 aircraft were ordered by Israel, but the order was later embargoed by the French government. They were delivered instead to the French Air Force as the Mirage 5F.[14]
Mirage 5M : Export version of the Mirage 5 for Zaire;[11] 14 built, of which only 8 delivered to Zaire owing to funding shortages.[17]
Mirage 5MA Elkan : Upgraded Mirage 5BA aircraft sold to Chile.
Mirage 5P : Export version of the Mirage 5 for Peru; 22 built.[18]
Mirage 5P Mara : Upgraded Mirage 5P aircraft for Argentina.
Mirage 5P3 : Upgraded aircraft for Peru; 10 built.[18]
Mirage 5P4 : Upgraded aircraft for Peru; two built new plus upgraded older aircraft.[18]
Mirage 5PA : Single-seat radarless version of the Mirage 5 for Pakistan. 28 built.[11]
Mirage 5PA2 : New build radar equipped aircraft for Pakistan, fitted with Cyrano IV radar. 28 built.[19]
Mirage 5PA3 : New build radar-equipped anti-shipping aircraft for Pakistan, fitted with an Agave radar for compatibility with Exocet anti-ship missile.[19]
Mirage 5SDE : Single-seat radar-equipped fighter-bomber version for Egypt, equivalent to Mirage IIIE; 54 built.[20]
Mirage 5E2 : Upgraded radarless attack version for Egypt. 16 built.[20]
Mirage 5V : Single-seat ground attack aircraft 5 for Venezuela; six built. Survivors rebuilt to Mirage 50EV standard.[21]
Mirage 5R : Single-seat reconnaissance aircraft.
Mirage 5BR : Reconnaissance version of 5BA for Belgium; 27 built, 23 in Belgium.[22]
Mirage 5COR : Export version of the Mirage 5R for Colombia;[22] two built.[23]
Mirage 5DR : Export version of the Mirage 5R for Libya; ten built.[24][25]
Mirage 5RAD : Export version of the Mirage 5R for Abu Dhabi, UAE; three built.[12]
Mirage 5SDR : Export version of the Mirage 5R for Egypt; six built.[20]
Mirage 5Dx : Two-seat training version.
Mirage 5BD : Two-seat trainer version of 5BA for Belgium; 16 built, 15 built locally.[26]
Mirage 5COD : Two-seat trainer for Colombia. Two built.[26] Ugraded with canards and new avionics.[13]
Mirage 5DAD : Two-seat trainer for Abu Dhabi, UAE. Three built.[26]
Mirage 5DD : Two-seat trainer for Libya; 15 built.[26]
Mirage 5DG : Two-seat trainer for Gabon; four built, two delivered 1978 and two in 1984.[16]
Mirage 5DM : Two-seat trainer for Zaire; three built, all of which were delivered.[17]
Mirage 5DP : Two-seat trainer for Peru; four delivered.[18]
Mirage 5DP3 : Updated trainer for Peru. Two new build plus upgrade of remaining 5DPs.[18]
Mirage 5DPA2 : Two-seat trainer version of 5 for Pakistan; two built.[19]
Mirage 5MD Elkan : Upgraded Mirage 5BD aircraft sold to Chile.
Mirage 5SDD : Two-seat trainer for Egypt; six built.[20]
Mirage 50 : Single-seat multi-role fighter-bomber, ground-attack aircraft, powered by more powerful 49.2 kN (11,055 lbf) dry, 70.6 kN (15,870 lbf) with reheat Atar 9K-50 engine. Available with or without radar.
Mirage 50C : New build radar-equipped Mirage 50 for Chile; six built.[27]
Mirage 50FC : Eight re-engined Mirage 5F aircraft sold to Chile.[27]
Mirage 50DC : Two-seat training version for Chile. Three built, two with lower powered Atar 9C-3 engine.[27]
Mirage 50CN Pantera : Mirage 50C and 50FC aircraft upgraded by ENAER with help from the Israeli company IAI for Chile with canards, revised, Kfir style nose and new avionics; 13 50C and FC upgraded plus two 50DC trainers.[28]
Mirage 50EV : Upgraded Mirage 5V aircraft for Venezuela, with Atar 9K-50 engine, canards and updated avionics (including radar).[29] Six new-build aircraft, three upgraded ex-Zaire 5M, plus six upgraded remaining IIIEV and 5Vs.[21]
Mirage 50DV : Upgraded Mirage 5DV aircraft for Venezuela, similar standard to 50EV.[29] One new build plus two upgrades.[21] This variant is also in service with the Ecuadorian Air Force.[30]
Mirage Project ROSE : An upgraded version for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF). Project ROSE was started by the PAF in the mid 1980s. These aircraft have avionics, cockpit, airframe and strike elements upgrades. Mirage ROSE 3, the latest version, has an air to air refueling capability and can deploy the nuclear-capable Ra'ad air to ground cruise missile.

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hschuit wrote:
19 Jan 2021, 10:40
If someone is willing to filter out the essential models and narrow the lot down to say ~100 models I am willing to do the conversion. Last year I converted some of the Belgium Mirage V's for my own personal use, they look quite nice in P3D.

Henk.
I believe the Cheetah's can be reduced to these models:
Cheetah_C_Bombs
Cheetah_C_Intercept
Cheetah_C_Tanks
Cheetah_D_Tanks2 (For some reason the "Tanks" model in MCX doesn't show tanks)

Cheetah_E_Bombs
Cheetah_E_VFR
If further reduction is required the Cheetah E's can be left out. They were only operated a short period of time.

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