AI flight via waypoint

[Jive1]

Hey!
I wanted a SAR aircraft to fly in FS9 every day AI from LERS to LERT and back via a waypoint LE01 that I made in the area of LEAM.
I'm not sure on how to program the flight on the waypoint. I have now the following flightplan ...
AC#11,VT-1,50%,24Hr,VFR,09:00:00,TNG09:55:34,080,F,0011,LE01,09:55:33,11:13:20,080,F,0011,LERS,13:59:53,TNG15:17:40,080,F,0011,LE01,15:17:45,16:13:19,080,F,0011,LERT
Everything went fine till after the ficticious TNG on the LE01 waypoint/runway, it was very nice to see the aircraft turning and going down, the gears going down and touching the runway, and then taking off again, but...
For one or anorther reason, the flaps did not go up to normal position again, and the aircraft went up further and further at too low a speed and even far above the planned 8000ft from the AI flightplan, and also it went straight forward in the direction of the take off. As planned it should have turned to north in direction to LERS.
So, my questions now are:
- why did the aircraft not turn to the north in direction to LERS after the LE01 waypoint TNG,
- and why did it just climb even above the planned height,
- and why did the flaps not go in the normal position but mayby 30% down?
- And how can I correct all these errors?
Apart from that my experiments have been a succes.
Greetz
Jive1 - Belgium

[swp53]

Hi Jive,
2 things come to mind, the 4 minute rule to ensure the AI aircraft departs the TNG. You have a departure from the LE01 before the finish of the TNG "TNG09:55:34,080,F,0011,LE01,09:55:33," Try changing the departure time to "TNG09:55:34,080,F,0011,LE01,09:59:33,".
Also strange things happen with VFR TNG's especially at a waypoint because there is no actual runway while a IFR flightplan produces an overshoot from 200ft on approach to the waypoint. Try using IFR and see what happens.
Steve

[Jive1]

Hey! Beta Tester,
And what about the direction of the 'runway' at the waypoint LE01? Should that direction be any, or should it be towardas the next airport ?
Freetz
Jive1 - Belgium

[Jive1]

Hey!
I've made the advised correction of 4 minutes. Is there somewhere a description of that 4 minutes rule? Maybe I can learn some more items about AI flight planning.
My SAR plane did now a perfect tour inclusive the waypoint. However at the end, landing at LERS, something went wrong: the touch down of the main gear was OK, but when the nosewheel touched the ground, the plane bounced a few times and.... disappeared. Pitty, because all the flight was perfect.
Any explanation of the bouncing and disappearing? My plane is thet Casa295mptur_9.zip with spanish coloures...
Greetz
Jive1 - Belgium

[Firebird]

There is nothing written down about the 4 minute rule, it is something that somebody worked out a long time ago and has been used ever since.
The plane that you are using is not an AI plane but an flyable plane. For that to work you need to change its fde and if you are not used to doing it that can be difficult.

Why not try Miljans AI C-295M? If you look in our Download Hangar and search for 'C-295' you will find what you need.

[swp53]

Hi Steve,
I thought that was the case regarding the 4 minutes, I know in TTools by Lee Swordy he states in the instructions that a TNG departure time must be a minute or so after the arrival time never the same time.
If I remember correctly it needed to be more than 2 minutes but less than 5 minutes from the testing that was done and 4 minutes was found to be ideal.
Regards,
Steve

[Firebird]

That is exactly what I understood, Steve.

[Jive1]

Hey!
@Firebird Steve
Thank you for the information about MAIW C-295.
I used that specific Casa295 because I found it on the net, ready to use with spanish SAR-colours. Of course, for the use as AI aircraft, I took away several folders of the aircraft that are useless for AI. It flies really well! ( What do you mean by 'fde'? )
I did not know about the MAIW Casa 295. I've downloaded now, and I see that they are not SAR, so I could not use theh MAIW ones.
And now, because I have these latter ones, I'm searchig for AL-flightplans for that planes. Do MAIW have AI flightplan for these and an spanish airport scenery where they are usually stationed?
Furthermore I've got some extra information on AI and Waypoit from swp53

@Steve swp53
I have the helpfile of AFCAD2 but I did not see the explanation that you gave me via your special message. Thank you.

GReetz
Jive1 - Belgium

[flyerkg]

I am considering the FSX@War Carrier Convoy Planner (CCP) for this very purpose. Has anyone here used this tool?

[leuen]

If I remember correctly it needed to be more than 2 minutes but less than 5 minutes from the testing that was done and 4 minutes was found to be ideal.

I always set exactly two minutes, and it works perfectly.

[swp53]

I always set exactly four minutes, and it works perfectly.

[Firebird]

Thank you for the information about MAIW C-295.
I used that specific Casa295 because I found it on the net, ready to use with spanish SAR-colours. Of course, for the use as AI aircraft, I took away several folders of the aircraft that are useless for AI. It flies really well! ( What do you mean by 'fde'? )
I did not know about the MAIW Casa 295. I've downloaded now, and I see that they are not SAR, so I could not use theh MAIW ones.

I have done some checking and found that there are no C-295Ms that are used for SAR. There are CN-235MPAs that are used used for SAR at Mallorca. Could you be getting the 2 types confused?

[Jive1]

Hey!
I have found a 'casa295mptur_9.zip'YOU CAN FIND IT AT http://www.premaircraft.com/CASA295/index.html.
Greetz
Jive1 - Belgium