Just playing a bit with FSDS

max2202 · Post by **max2202** » 17 Oct 2008, 17:11

Are you working on a MiG-21? I'm seriously thinking on starting on the MiG-21 after this, or the MiG-23. Do you know how many models where made for the MiG-21, unbelievable! It's also made as the J-7 in China, amazing aircraft.

BadPvtDan · Post by **BadPvtDan** » 17 Oct 2008, 17:41

When you get to that point, we may be able to help with XML. The modelers have lots of things they might share.

sprocky · Post by **sprocky** » 17 Oct 2008, 21:22

max2202 wrote:It's also made as the J-7 in China, amazing aircraft.

And if I remember correctly a modified variant of the J-7 is
still in production

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 18 Oct 2008, 01:29

Guys, there are 2 AI Mig-21s available already.

Mehlin Rainer's excellent 7-LOD MiG-21 model
Hrvoje Kovacevic's GMax Mig-21

Michael Pearson has done a grunch of repaints for both.

MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 18 Oct 2008, 03:12

Ford the problem is that I don't believe we have permission to use those models. I could be wrong but I think if we did have permission, we would have used them in a package already. So in that case they are virtually useless to MAIW.

Lemme check if we have permission to use them or not.

Anyways this is a thread drift that I started unintentionally so let's not take away from Max's model with a MIG-21 discussion.

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 18 Oct 2008, 03:19

MIKE JG wrote:Ford the problem is that I don't believe we have permission to use those models. So in that case they are virtually useless to MAIW.

That's certainly one perspective.

Another is that I already have all of the AI Mig-21s released/painted thus far flying in my sim. I am sure that I am not the only one.

But, I do believe in modellers modelling whatever they are interested in although that feeling is somewhat in conflict with hating to see duplication - in this case, triplication - of effort.

Just a thought.

MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 18 Oct 2008, 03:31

Well I certainly stand corrected.

It appears that we do have Mehlin Rainer's permission to use his models.

Max by all means do the Mig-21 if you want to but it does appear that we have use of one already if need be.

VulcanDriver · Post by **VulcanDriver** » 18 Oct 2008, 05:52

I'd love a an AI Blackjack...

Firebird · Post by **Firebird** » 18 Oct 2008, 06:46

I must admit that there are loadsa things that I would to see modeled and I will admit to being almost obsessed with the types I wanted and nothing else.
However one of the things that my time hanging around in here has taught me is that I have learned to appreciate each new type released, for its own merits, plus of course it means that the list of aircraft yet to be done is smaller and therefore the ones I would most like to see are nearer.

The art of Zen and AI?

max2202 · Post by **max2202** » 18 Oct 2008, 21:12

I'm getting there with the texture mappings. The cutting and joining tip works great. Just need to figure out the FDE, maybe someone can help me with that?

And another question. If you make swept wings, can you control that with XML. So you have two flaps, one the real flaps, and the other as the swept wings?

Thanks

VulcanDriver · Post by **VulcanDriver** » 18 Oct 2008, 21:20

max2202 wrote: And another question. If you make swept wings, can you control that with XML. So you have two flaps, one the real flaps, and the other as the swept wings?

Thanks

Do you mean "swing wings" like the F-111? If so Nick Black is your man as he used them on the F-14.

John

max2202 · Post by **max2202** » 18 Oct 2008, 21:28

VulcanDriver wrote:
max2202 wrote: And another question. If you make swept wings, can you control that with XML. So you have two flaps, one the real flaps, and the other as the swept wings?

Thanks
Do you mean "swing wings" like the F-111? If so Nick Black is your man as he used them on the F-14.

John

Yes, I mean swing wings. I'm just wondering what to start next, I want to take it a step further. So maybe a Flogger or a Blackjack.

VulcanDriver · Post by **VulcanDriver** » 18 Oct 2008, 21:53

I'd like to see an AI Blackjack. Shoot Nick a PM, I'm sure he will help you.

MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 19 Oct 2008, 00:57

Max the man you want to talk to about the FDE is Michael MacIntyre. He's done pretty much all the MAIW models FDE setups and really knows his stuff. I'm sure if he has the time, he could help you.

Try sending him a PM, his username is "mikewmac".

max2202 · Post by **max2202** » 20 Oct 2008, 19:52

I've finished LOD 1, only missing a pilot

The only problem is that ACM 2.5 is showing 4657 polygons. Is this acceptable? Or should I try and reduce is to around 3500?

Thank.

VulcanDriver · Post by **VulcanDriver** » 20 Oct 2008, 20:02

I'd say for LOD 1 its OK as its quite a complex shape.

John

Firebird · Post by **Firebird** » 20 Oct 2008, 20:10

Like John said its good. Is there anything to do other than the pilot? Speedbrake for example.

max2202 · Post by **max2202** » 20 Oct 2008, 20:20

I don't believe the MiG-25 has a speedbreak, only a parachute I think. I just need to change some texture mappings and change the keymapping of the front gear. Thats about it.

swp53 · Post by **swp53** » 20 Oct 2008, 20:57

Hi max2202,
Well the Mig 25UB definately does have a speed brake between the tail fins.
I have a video clip of a Mig25UB takeoff/landing but it is 11.3mb. If I can find a link to where I got it I will post.
Regards,
Steve.

max2202 · Post by **max2202** » 20 Oct 2008, 21:30

swp53 wrote:Hi max2202,
Well the Mig 25UB definately does have a speed brake between the tail fins.
Regards,
Steve.

I missed something then, but you are right.

Thank you.